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JonBenet Ramsey - 12/26/1996 - Boulder, Colorado -Unsolved Crime/Homocide

Almost twelve years have passed since Dec. 26, 1996, when John Ramsey, a wealthy software executive, found his 6-year-old daughter JonBenet dead in the basement of their Boulder, Colo. home. Eight hours prior, his wife Patsy had found a ransom note demanding $118,000 for their daughter's safe return. No call ever came from a kidnapper. So unraveled the saga of the young beauty queen whose murder has put a cloud over her entire family, the Boulder Police Department and the District Attorney in charge of solving the case. Investigators in Boulder — who were dealing with the city's first murder that year — failed to conduct a proper search of the house and even allowed friends of the family to walk in and out of the crime scene as the family and police waited for a ransom call.

While John's two adult children from a previous marriage were cleared of the murder early on, suspicion remained on the three people who were the only ones known to be home when JonBenet was killed — her 9-year-old brother Burke and her parents. Almost three years after the murder, Burke, now 12, was questioned by a grand jury, but never charged. John and Patsy published The Death of Innocence in 2000 detailing their story even as they remained suspects in the case. In June of 2006, Patsy died of ovarian cancer, just two months before the arrest of John Mark Karr, an American man who had admitted to killing JonBenet, only to have the case dropped against him two weeks later when DNA tests showed he could not have been at the crime scene.

This past summer, prosecutors were finally able to conclude that John and Patsy were not responsible for their daughter's murder, but that DNA points to an "unexplained third party." John Ramsey still retains hope that evidence will track down his daughter's killer and finally rid his family of the stain that continues to make its mark.


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Last update on June 21, 2011 1:58 pm by PAngel777.
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A dark haired man (dark brown)mustache, fine texture hair very straight average length, 5'9", medium muscular build. Contractor, was at the home weeks maybe up to 2 months previously to bid a job (might be neighbors but feel it was at the Ramsey's, he became infatuated with her and watched. His intentions was to take Jon Benet from the home, she was fighting, she bit him. (he still has the scar on his leg) He lost control. After he killed her, he actually went back up to the main floor and paced, not sure what he was going to do. He couldn't take her now.

He freaked. He made a mistake and left some evidence behind, LE has it.

Dark blue truck (midnight blue), lives in the city a few miles from the Ramsey house, He lives in a brown brick 1 1/2 story home, brick front porch, door on the left sitting area on the right is a swing. Name of street starts with an S, I believe 2nd house from the corner. Black mailbox on the left before the landing, Tree on the right side of the steps. He parks in the street, no drive way.

He is an independent contractor does not work for a big company. He does a wide range of jobs.

He rarely dates mostly one night stands. Drinks whiskey. He frequents a bar that has Pub in the name it is the second word, the first word is a person's name such as Pat's Pub or something like that. Wears contractor boots, blue jeans and denim shirts. He has a white fluffy cat.

His mother lives 30-40 away, she is a widow, he has one sister.
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I got a call from someone yesterday asking if this was a case we could work on, Thanks dizzy for moving it forward.
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JonBennet is the most vivid that I have seen. The description of the third that Dizzy has written is the same as what I saw. I never knew what to do with the information prior to finding your place. Dad is innocent. JonBennet still upset with mother at the time I spoke with her. Very clear about what she is showing.
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I'm closing eyes, so forgive typos please...The man I see doing this is an older white male in his mid to late 50s. He has gray hair, parted on the side. His hair is short, and has a slight balding spot on the top of his head. He is short, only about 5/4" weighing in at about 125lbs. He is thin build and wearing jeans and a blue uniform shirt. The name Roeading or Reading popped into my head. I see him strangling her with something he made, in the basement. He's wearing shoes, with a slippery sole. He heard something and abandoned taking her from the house. He held his hand over her mouth to keep her quiet. He has blue eyes, and a little salt and pepper in his hair, but mostly white. He has a thin nose, and thin lips...kind of bushy eyebrows, and hair on the tops of his ears. I get that he has been arrested for drunk and disorderly conduct befor. I also feel like he is related to one of the police officers, and they believe him to be a harmless nutcase. I'm going to draw a sketch and hopefully post it soon.
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From Gemstone Tarot Journal 1997

Ten of Staves:
Young mother of two shouldering a bundle, older son walks ahead of her.
Laboring servant/slave class/ Reign of Ramses House of Ramses.
Overburdened pressured, taxed to the limits of ones ability to cope. Responsibilities, obligations pressure

Your spirit seems trapped your heart seems caged. How to escape the wretched oppression. Expresses the disappointment of one who has traveled on the astral plane or experienced a miraculous conversion or burst of kundalini energy-chi-sexual ecstasy even died

notes:Tall full clothed unnamed male being approached by a smaller male

Judgment: In a dream state a woman rises from her bed She extends her hand through the window which reflects her like a mirror.
Gabriel who guards and guided prospective mothers

notes: molar teeth something she ate. Completion of two decades Patsy turning 40

Notes: Linda Pugh-Hoffman was to pick up a check for 2,000
flamingo sleep with only 1/2 of it's brain

From note: "Don't try to grow a brain John."

King of Cups: John Ramsey wrote the note:Strong man great forgiveness for those who atone for their misdeed By this he gains immense respect and is even feared. Due to his competent and aspiring nature. A deep person of passion and secrecy. He can be ruthless toward evil doers who do not repent. Deep intropsective

notes: bran the blessed who carried the precious cauldron up from the bottom of the lake.

Empress: 755 15th Street Condo on Pearl Street
Pearl necklace great other great mother Virgin Mary, Copper woman Maternal wealth fertility.
Laid in manger, killed, buried , resurrected flesh was eaten as bread blood drunk as wine.
Acts of intercourse between Hierophant and Demeter

GRANDMOTHER
Patsy to Reverand Hoverstock
"Jesus, you raised Lazarus from the dead please raise my baby."
Barbara Kostanick: Daughter Megan played with Jon Benet: Pearl beads Kitty

Eight of Pentacles:
Young man learning to make shields. Queen of Holy Rosary
Burke age 8
Kore-Mary Jon Benet's school

eager student There is no time for a vacations

Patsy' 40th birthday mid-life crisis Band the 4 Nikators

Figure skater storing money looking through telescope

THE APPRENTICE

Five of Cups:
Adultery, mental illness, problems regret, death, sterility, marriage without real love. Woman abandoned man indifferent annoyed. Deadly impotence.
OK, tried to do a sketch, but all I had was pens...so will have to do this when I'm not exhausted. The nose is of Doctor Kevorkian, only doesn't have the beak like quality...the nostrils are longer and more to the side of his nose. The eyes have a skin fold under them and a large cyst type thing on his left eye, near the nose, about 1 1/2 mm...he has piercing blue eyes...thin lips and has a thin wrinkled face, with white hair...
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I looked at this case two years ago its uploaded on the above link.

Tarot for Jonbenet Ramsay
« Thread Started on Feb 8, 2009, 23:18 »


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I was looking through the messages of the forum and then I saw the picture of Jonbenet looking back at me she is smiling genuinely maybe it was a beackoning...

I thought I would ask her if she would like to tell me anything through the tarot. I do not know all the details of the case and I read the tarot cold.

What messages I receive may be a ramble so I will just write what I am given and it will pertain to past present and future.

Though I have asked a question tarot answers it HOW IT WISHES - please make a note of this.

The first thing Jonbenet gives to me is the Lovers. The first thing to note about the Lovers is CHOICE and also that it is a six and can be linked to the six of cups.

I am not going to twist the words of the tarot to fit a scenario because I cant but what it tells me is that there were two people who fell in love with one career. I dont give a name I just give what Im told. Therefore two people connected to a career. There seems to be a choice being given here -

The lovers generally suggests two people who have a relationship together so it could be mother and father which would be the natural choice. This card can represent a major deception in a relationship and can suggest a third person because there appears to be an attractive love OPTION here

There may be a choice between LOVE or CAREER so it could be that someone delivered some kind of ultimatum.

Jonbenet assures me that the truth can be easily seen in this card though Im not sure myself yet as I consider the meanings of it.

The Lovers does normally suggest FATHER MOTHER and CHILD. It also gives us indication of proofs and trials surmounted and is a card that splits between vice and virtue.

It appears with this card that we are given the picture of the garden of eden with the serpent...the male is left with a terrible concience in this card as the female urges him to break with his concience and of course you know the story of Adam and Eve.

In this card I am being given an EYE which is a VAU in Hebrew and it makes me wonder whether two people were seen naked together - as the card also links to the BULL it should also show that the bull can charge and be very vocal at the same time.

It seems to me already that something was mentioned and received in a bit of a suspicious manner - but the thought was possible bounced off...I tend to think that someone was more than interested in Jonbenet because this card can represent sexuality of which could be linked.

I am also given something about SMELL this card tells me there is a SMELL for what significance this has I am not sure.

I seem to feel there is some unrequited love in this situation, whether that is about someone who loves another and they dont love them back, or whether it is not an emotional thing but about a career which perhaps one person did not agree with or did not have the same feeling for is quite another matter.

It seems to me that a crossroads presented itself and it was an EITHER or an OR - but a choice had to be made.

There does seem to be three people and a choice here.

It could be someone who has fallen in love with someone else but by doing so it has represented a problem where choice is paramount. I am seeing over and over a triangle situation and I wonder if Jonbenet saw something.

Here an older woman seems to act as some kind of matchmaker and watch over the situation, so Im going to suggest it was Jonbenets mother who was right behind her career...?

I feel there was a caution here about mixing business with romance -

Im not sure if this family mixed with another family to discuss the business aspects of the pageant career?

I say this because there is a new relationship here whereby people are meeting other people and it would have been a new association? I am wondering if there is something about another MENTOR that might have been introduced to the family of Jonbenet?


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As our first card was the Lovers before drawing upon any others, it seems wise to consult this card to find a link with that and the first card. The six of cups is primarily about the past.

Im rather thinking of this as love being destroyed in the middle of happiness and I do think Im being given a bit of a story here. Perhaps its looking back to childhood memories and seeing so many pleasant things there because that is where it also begins and stops. This card also gives us meditating intelligence so could support my thoughts of Jonbenet looking over the past when I meditate on her and attempting to explain things to me...it does seem that the meditating intelligence could be showing the beginnings and thoughts of those who would initiate a possible career for her?

I am rather feeling that this child was NEVER a child in any way and that childhood though part of Jonbenets life being as she was so young - seemed blotted out by her career matters as you can see her childhood is reflected on and stops therefore it suggests that it was very brief remembering anything as a child, and so reflects one who is taking on responsibilities of someone much older. This then does give us good foundation for Jonbenets story.

It appears to me that drunkeness and violence played a part in Jonbenets death and I think she was struck . The person doing the striking appears to be a woman - and I see some form of 'fornication' attached to this and a degree of anger/wrath and violence. It seems to me its about a deception in love and friendship.

Likely someone who was interested in Jonbenet was also the subject of interest for someone else and the vanity of that person caused them to lash out. It seems because promises would have been unfilled and lying and upset was too much for someone.

Getting rid of Jonbenet would be a victory to the person because Jonbenet stood in their way.

It would be interesting now to read some reports because this person is definately a rival of Jonbenet and they had dark hair. Who knows, it might not even have been an adult - one thing for sure is that Jonbenet was in their way.


More observations of the six of cups.

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I have before mentioned in the other posts that six of cups is about memories and the past. Note that on this card it shows two children a boy and a girl.

The card is about forgiving about saying what is done is done and perhaps that is the message being passed to us by tarot. Perhaps it is suggesting that when a child goes wrong they should be forgiven?

However, this card does seem to say that someone returned from the past - and as I dont have much information about this case I am not sure how and why this fits. But we have to take it as one of tarots messages.

Certainly some of the answers to what happened to Jonbenet may have something to do with the past before she passed on and we have to string these thoughts from tarot together the best way we can.

Perhaps even something had been going on with Jonbenet for a long time and was not detected? or was hidden from view from others.

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When asking who is responsible for the death of this child it might surprise you that tarot suggests it was a MENTOR or a TEACHER and I am being given ART/DRAWING....

this indicates to me that someone who was part of a group or even organisation might be responsible AND even a family is a group - these may be the outside influences that tarot brings up...the heirophant shows us two drawings in one of its other cards depicting art.



and figure in some way.There are angry and defensive exchanges here and a very hostile person. I just somehow feel that there has been some bad exchange and a child being hostile to the other person. Someone trying to talk and say something but the other does,nt seem to understand. I think Jonbenet is the person who does not understand..

I also see something very strange which I cant explain but someone is wearing two different shoes...I have no idea why that is..but they are..and I wonder if they had been changing their shoes into house slippers? when this took off?

There is destruction with this page of swords and this is very clear indeed. It seems to me there might have been some opposition raised OUTSIDE the house.

I also see unexpected grief for someone here.

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There is a young person here that has fits of rage and anger.
This person wanted to command respect - and it could be that they executed the unthinkable.



CONNECTED to page of swords is HEY WINDOW 5 the hebrew number which literally shows us a window and someone with their hands raised up shouting?

There is a weakness of character here and overdependence on parents...and this card also seems to tell us there were problems with the father -

maybe someone kept getting overlooked?

WITHOUT PREJUDICE.

I have edited a comment here because it might not be appropriate. I will leave the tarot as it stands.


Just need to mention that CHURCH SCHOOL ORGANISATIONS CLUBS TEAMS anything connected with a group situation does bear some influence in this case. I cant remember whether I said this or not but will reiterate it right here.

This connects to the heirophant. The Heirophant is pasted up in one of the posts above. I do not know how it connects together and hope you remember this whilst reading.

Religious aspects do touch this case also - but they might have had some spiritual or religious connection that I am not aware of .


Having seen a youtube of Jonbenet which I have now posted in another thread here - I am astounded by how much older she looks then her age. Stopping the youtube I come to a beautiful black and white picture of this lovely child. I ask her directly why this happened to her. This child told me the reason was because of her father.

That is not a finger of blame, she said it was 'because' of her father - I have no idea why. When I asked directly who did this to her, she said she was afraid to tell me - feared opening up and said that I should apply deep discretion.

Clearly there are things about this case that need to be put aside then. I am not interested in hunting down a perpetrator, I just want to feel into this childs mind to see that she is alright. I have this girl smiling and she gives forgiveness.

That is all I intend to write on this case. You may comment if you wish. Personally, I find this kind of work too devastating although I am prepared to give what tarot shows us but I am not going to get involved in names. Tarot does not give those anyway but it does point arrows.

My arrows are staying in the box. God bless this child.

EMPATHY
O God it has been so long
I think the father was abusing the daughter also involved in pornography in Europe
Mother caught father abusing daughter went to strike him but hit her by accident
The friend Floyd is the one who found her in the wine cellar..I think that is what I recollect so the act of removing her tainted the crime scene.
The doctor report said Jon Benet had no hymen.
All the rest was staged the wooded stick and the chord around the neck that was all staged.........................
It was Christmas Eve they had come home from a party and put Jon Benet to bed
for she fell asleep in the car.
yea my soul is telling me enough spent over a year on this
This little girl does,nt want this case opened. I hate to say it but she does,nt and I will never forget the day I did the tarot for her. Sometimes even a little child can beg whether dead or not and she said FORGIVE.
I'm with you Empathy

This child came to me for over a year.

Unlike all the different visions I had with Kyron. With JonBenet there was only one.
She always took me into the basement where I heard the reels/wheels.. the sound of an old fashioned film projector.

I do twelve house spread and base the interpretations on the houses of the zodiac.

In the eighth house I pulled the ten of swords.

I was working as a psychic at the time and the one thing I promised myself was I would work on the original reading.
Yes, its very sad.
Before I dropped out of college some years ago. I had to do a report/ write up on this case. I think this is one of those cases that has always been part of my life. So I was happy to do the report. I have always felt like the parents weren't responsible. Seems like it is so odd they haven't got one suspect yet in all these years.
I always felt like (not to sound judgmental and cast stones) it was not appropriate the way they dressed that little girl up like that, and felt she met her demise due to these pageants. Like some pervert saw her and became obsessed, ect. Also I feel the person responsible for her death did know the family for a long time and Jean benet too. A "uncle" type maybe, Now that you have done the card reading empathy I wonder if Patsy Ramsey knew the murderer well from way back in the day when she was in pageants. Maybe it was a judge or something or someone who was active when she was involved as a youth?
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, held in high esteem of old, by the Wise and the Great. Formerly, no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight in Battle, in short, no important affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer. Benjamin Franklin
Yes I think Patsy would have known the person Michelle.



Extremely interesting picture painted by Patsy Ramsay (released after her death) which was thought of as a plaguerism of Maddison 'Pais'. Thought to be Burke and Jon Benet.

I understand Beth the other sister was killed in a car crash.
I'm still getting the little old Irish weazle looking guy...he is tiny...has been arested for PI, and may be a transiet or dislocated homeless...but I feel like he has a place to stay. He wanted this little girl for his own pleasure. If I saw Boulder police photos, I'm certain, I could pick him out of a lineup. He has white hair (gray) parted on one side to the right (meaning his left) Dr. Kevorkian type needle nose only not the huge hump, but a little bump at the top, and some kind of little cyst on his left eye..very thin lips...wide hips for a man of his stature, and he is thin and short.
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Note: he looks older than his real age...and has wrinkles under his eyes and bottom lip...smokers lines around his mouth.
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I get that this guy is an almost total stranger to the Ramseys...he knew of them, but they really didn't know him at all.
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I'm just focused on what's happened the day she died,

Raw informations:

- She crawls.
- Owls.
- She puts her fingers in a socket. I saw the electricity pass through her.
- She runs in a hallway, she wears a white shirt.
- vane that rotates (She show me it).
- key-ring with chains attached to a rear-view mirror. This king of thing:
- cabin in sheet metal.
- a trisomic man.
- a tractor.
- a man with a hat and plastic boots. Like this:
- an old man with glasses.
- stain glass church. I talk about this (don't remember the drawing):
- Booling.
- Maybe gay.
- Call-girl.

my personal interpretation:

I think that man could be a farmer, he could be gay, have mental disorders and playing booling.
But I need to do a session specifically on the man. It's just raw informations about the day she died..

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And i saw his spirit. Like i see entities in Astral projection.
But I was just in slightly altered state of consciousness, so i haven't had the possibility to speak with her.
It's easy to call her (I cannot do it with Holly bobo).

I'll try to call her in deeper altered state of consciousness.
I'm not sure that she would talk with me because she seems to just want to play.

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When i said: "vane that rotates (She show me it)."

In fact, i think she wanted talk to me about a power generator.

In my last session, she showed me a jumpbox.
The vision was blurry, but it was written "Jumpbox" on it.

I clearly saw the word "Jumpbox" written in big. And just after, she showed me again the thing I had taken for a weathervane.

I think she's trying to tell me about the jumpbox's power supply:

Electrocution with a jumpbox's power supply.

I don't know what is exactly a "Jumpbox" because i'm french. If someone can tell it to me..

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I think she showed me this kind of thing:

I saw a blue block with "Jumpbox" written in big on it.
I found this:

Electrical burn marks on JonBenet's cheek indicated that she may have been Tasered before she was killed.

source:
I found others informations that have a connection with my perceptions:

"When asked to comment on this particular aspect of the case, the coroner who performed the autopsy on JonBenet confirmed that the marks could be electrical burn marks and were, in fact, consistent with those produced by a stun gun. Detective Lou Smit thus began to include the idea that a stun gun had been used on JonBenet in his arsenal of evidence that he claimed proved the existence of an unknown intruder, stating unequivocally (and correctly) that the Ramseys would never have used a stun gun on their own daughter.

The possibility that the marks on JonBenet’s body were caused by a stun gun is extremely unlikely in itself. A stun gun uses a battery and generates a lot of voltage but very little current. Thus, electrical burn marks left by a stun gun appear light, since it is the amount of current (measured in amperes [amps]) that determines how light or dark the residual marks will be. The marks on JonBenet’s body were extremely dark, much darker than marks that would have been left by a stun gun, suggesting that the source of the electrical burns found on JonBenet’s body produced substantially more current than a battery-operated stun gun. The forensics expert who suggested that the marks might have been left by a stun was reported to say that if the marks weren’t made by a stun gun, he’d like to know what else could have made them."

source:

And the entire autopsy report (if anyone is interested to reading it):
I just want to clarify that I did my two sessions without any information on the case.
I did it only with a picture of her. Without other knowledge on the case.
Also, i haven't read the first shellee's post before my two sessions.

So, i'm absolutely sure that i had a connection with Jonbénet, and that she tried explain to me that she was electrocuted by a jumpbox.

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Quote:
Originally posted by: Vassent Mathieu

I just want to clarify that I did my two sessions without any information on the case.
I did it only with a picture of her. Without other knowledge on the case.
Also, i haven't read the first shellee's post before my two sessions.

So, i'm absolutely sure that i had a connection with Jonbénet, and that she tried explain to me that she was electrocuted by a jumpbox.

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That's very interesting vassent...it makes sense that a child would not know what a "taser" is and would probably try to make up a name for it that would describe it.
C Reid said...


That's very interesting vassent...it makes sense that a child would not know what a "taser" is and would probably try to make up a name for it that would describe it.



She hasn't been tasered.

She has been electrocuted by a jumpbox. A portable battery. This is what she tried explain to me.

All documents i have found after my RV sessions confirm my perceptions.
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lol, the same for me. I'm french so jumpbox for me meant litteraly jump-box (jump on the box) ^^

She doesn't seem to want to talk a lot about the man or the murder. She has focused especially on the electrocution.

I have some things about the man (or men) but i want to do other RV sessions before i comment.

Almost every time I asked her who killed her, she told me about the electrocution.

It's the reason that i think the jumpbox could incriminate the killer.
Maybe it's possible to find Jonbenet DNA on the jumpbox contactor.

I will talk about the killer (killers) later. Holly case take all my time..
When you say jump box do you mean one used to give a car with a dead battery a jump? I have no idea what a jump box is, so I had to ask.
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, held in high esteem of old, by the Wise and the Great. Formerly, no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight in Battle, in short, no important affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer. Benjamin Franklin
Thank you Vassent. That is what I thought you were talking about. I was looking up what tazer burns look like. Do you think this jump box could leave marks that are similar looking to these ones? http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/story/2008/12/...
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, held in high esteem of old, by the Wise and the Great. Formerly, no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight in Battle, in short, no important affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer. Benjamin Franklin
Quote:
Originally posted by: Vassent Mathieu

I found others informations that have a connection with my perceptions:

"When asked to comment on this particular aspect of the case, the coroner who performed the autopsy on JonBenet confirmed that the marks could be electrical burn marks and were, in fact, consistent with those produced by a stun gun. Detective Lou Smit thus began to include the idea that a stun gun had been used on JonBenet in his arsenal of evidence that he claimed proved the existence of an unknown intruder, stating unequivocally (and correctly) that the Ramseys would never have used a stun gun on their own daughter.

The possibility that the marks on JonBenet’s body were caused by a stun gun is extremely unlikely in itself. A stun gun uses a battery and generates a lot of voltage but very little current. Thus, electrical burn marks left by a stun gun appear light, since it is the amount of current (measured in amperes [amps]) that determines how light or dark the residual marks will be. The marks on JonBenet’s body were extremely dark, much darker than marks that would have been left by a stun gun, suggesting that the source of the electrical burns found on JonBenet’s body produced substantially more current than a battery-operated stun gun. The forensics expert who suggested that the marks might have been left by a stun was reported to say that if the marks weren’t made by a stun gun, he’d like to know what else could have made them."

source:

And the entire autopsy report (if anyone is interested to reading it):




Thank you I will read the autopsy report.
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, held in high esteem of old, by the Wise and the Great. Formerly, no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight in Battle, in short, no important affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer. Benjamin Franklin
Just finished reading the autopsy report. It has been a few years (did a report on this in college). I was under the impression that the media was leaning tword her being tazered due to the mark on her cheek.
Upon reading the autopsy report again I didn't see any mention of size in regards to the cheek abrasion. I have read it twice now and can't find anything really solid as far as size, it is late over here though and maybe I have over looked something. I just think it is strange b/c they measured all the other wounds and recorded the exact size in the autopsy. Why not that one? it says there was an abrasion on the right cheek, but there is just no measurement. Is this area of suspected electrocution consistent with what you saw Vassent?
I have decided not to spend time reading too much into the other site as I can't even find a name for the author of that book, or where they got their info from.
Astrology is one of the most ancient Sciences, held in high esteem of old, by the Wise and the Great. Formerly, no Prince would make War or Peace, nor any General fight in Battle, in short, no important affair was undertaken without first consulting an Astrologer. Benjamin Franklin
(I forwarded the information about the jumpbox to Boulder PD since a long time.. Now, they do what they want with this information, they can use it or not, this is no longer my problem).
Vassent, i found this article with evidence confirming that a stun gun wasn't used on Jonbenet. I know you already picked up on that but thought this was interesting...

http://gemart.8m.com/ramsey/stungun.html
I haven't seen it, it's very interesting.

Thx Arlene !
Oh Vassent, I just re read what I said in the previous post about the other site seeming reputable. I wasn't talking about the autopsy rept. I was talking about the site Ramseysecrets.com.
I am always concerned about info from people trying to make money off "Secret info" they've got. If the info is true why not give it to the people instead of selling it? Put it up online for every one to see. Can't put a price on truth.

http://www.ramseysecrets.com/excerpts.htm
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Michelle, i don't need to verify again and again on the web, i'm 100% sure of my perception.

http://www.psychiccrimefighter.com/forum/thread/pe...

I ended up with the electrocution. It's finish for me.

For the rest, i consider that it's useless to know the electrocution location. Useless to resolve the case.

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new work.

I asked her who the person responsible for her death.

She said "burn is Jim".

It's exactly what i heard, word for word.

I made search on google to found a connection with Ramsey family and a Jim, but without result.

I have other informations about Jonbenet death, but i have confusion about some things, i want to continue working before i comment.
And i don't have enought informations to really be able to describe how man has made.

What i saw in the same RV session:

JonBenet goes to the door of the house to open it for the murders

(i suppose, because just after, i saw this):

The man grabs the door handle. He is wearing gloves to avoid getting fingerprints.

It was the night.

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I forgot a perception in my previous post.

In my first post i said "Maybe gay". Now i'm sure.
In my last RV session, i had a powerful perception about gay. A perception who lets me no doubt in my head.

I have other perceptions that i don't talk here who make confusions in my head. I need to do other RV sessions to understand. For exemple, perceptions about the father.
It's maybe nothing. Maybe the killer is related to the father, maybe he knew him.

I could try to get Jim family name. But i think Jonbenet said me "Jim" because she knew this man as "Jim". Only as "Jim".


I summarizes everything i am the most sure:

A gay man named Jim has made burn marks on JonBenet skin with a blue jumpbox.

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Hi Vassent, i remember Jonbenet's grandfather(her dad's father) was named James, that could be your Jim but i think he died in 1992, i will try to look online and see if i can find anything else on him.
Hi again, couldn't find much on the grandfather, but im almost positive he died before Jonbenet was killed....but i did find another jim who had worked for Mr. Ramsey...take a look here...its a lot of information about him.

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-jim-marino.htm
sorry for all the posts, just trying to help! But i was thinking if maybe this "jim" guy was a family friend, that the ramseys, specifically Patsy had helped with the murder...i know that sounds terrible and she and the entire Ramsey family has been cleared by Dna evidence, but that still doesn't mean she is inoocent, myabe she helped plan for someone else to do it and that is why pineapple was found in Jonbenet's system..Only someone she knew would do that, maybe a last midnight snack because Patsy knew what was going to happen to her? I doubt the killer would have fed her at all right before killing her....and maybe the ransom letter, which was writen on Patsy's notepad and had many similarities to her handwriting was actually written by her to help the killer out...if she knew him and took part in the murder of course...But that is just a theory...

Thank you for your great work Vassent..this case seems to have gone really cold and i'm so happy someone is trying to help!Smile
Thx Arlene!

It's interesting. It's could be this guy!

It would be nice to have a picture of him.


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Originally posted by: arlene

sorry for all the posts, just trying to help! But i was thinking if maybe this "jim" guy was a family friend, that the ramseys, specifically Patsy had helped with the murder...i know that sounds terrible and she and the entire Ramsey family has been cleared by Dna evidence, but that still doesn't mean she is inoocent, myabe she helped plan for someone else to do it and that is why pineapple was found in Jonbenet's system..Only someone she knew would do that, maybe a last midnight snack because Patsy knew what was going to happen to her? I doubt the killer would have fed her at all right before killing her....and maybe the ransom letter, which was writen on Patsy's notepad and had many similarities to her handwriting was actually written by her to help the killer out...if she knew him and took part in the murder of course...But that is just a theory...


I cannot answer to you for this. I need to do other RV sessions.

I don't make theories too quickly because it can pollute my RV sessions by making AOL.

AOL: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1503/aolh.jpg

And i don't use the know facts because know facts could be false, or fake. (as the letter expertise).

I just can say to you that i have similar visions/feeling, but with the father.

Especially during my first two sessions.


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Just an exemple:

When i said in my first post "a trisomic man".
He looked like the father..
The father with a trisomic head.

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I dont do tarot cards so know nothing about them but keep getting an image of a tarot card that has a bull fighter on it? dont know if that means anything to anyone or not
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Originally posted by: Destiny

I dont do tarot cards so know nothing about them but keep getting an image of a tarot card that has a bull fighter on it? dont know if that means anything to anyone or not


What is the name of your Tarot deck they are all different and will produce various images.
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What is the name of your Tarot deck they are all different and will produce various images.



i dont have a deck its a vision or image i keep recieving everytime i hear or read her name its of a tarot card that has a bull fighter on it . sorry for not being clear on that
So it's probably an allegorical perception about the case.
You can try in interpret it.

You need to ask this question to you:

- What bull fighters represent for me (in general) ?
- What could be the connection with the case ?
- What my subconcious try explain to me by sending this allegorical information ?

For exemple, your vision could be means "torture against Jonbenet".

I think that your subconscious sent a vision with a tarot card to help you understanding that the vision is allegorical and need an interpretation.

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I found this on the same site as you Arlene.


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1997-04-21: STAR MAGAZINE: "JonBenet Names Her Killer: It's not who you think it is!"

Week of April 21, 1997:

The SUN's cover reads "JonBenet Names Her Killer: It's not who you think it is!"

"The man who murdered little beauty JonBenet is a Ted Bundy like drifter who stalked the six-year-old for months before making his murderous move and he will strike again very soon if he's not collared by cops. So warns America's top psychic investigator Warren Freiberg. The respected radio-TV medium got his description of the killer from the most knowledgeable source possible-the victim-during a chilling seance at his home in Munster, Indiana.

Like most Americans following the heartwrenching murder investigation, Freiberg expected the girl to name her father or mother as the one responsible for sending her to a tragically early grave. However, he soon found the friend is not only unrelated to JonBenet's family, but is also a depraved drifter who's ready to strike again hundreds of miles away from the little girl's home.

From JonBenet's description of the killer, Freiberg drew a mental image of a tall, handsome man with delicate facial features and a small scar above his left eye. The psychic tried to comfort the troubled youngster, but her voice grew even more harsh and quaking as she continued with the story of her last moments of life.

The hovering spirit spoke: I don't know how Jim got in my house, but I wasn't afraid because I had seen him at some of the pageants. I asked him where mommy was and his face changed. . .he scared me when he grabbed me by the arm and said, You're my child now! I started to cry, but he put his hand over my mouth. I could not talk or yell for mom or dad. Then he started to do things to me. . .things that hurt and made me cry more. Then he put a rope around my neck and I couldn't breathe. I tried to fight him and I prayed my mommy or anyone would come to help me. . .I was frightened and alone. I hoped he would let me go, but he didn't. Please make sure he never does what he did to me to anyone else. Hurry. . .Jim is making friends with anther little girl with blonde hair who enters beauty pageants like me.

Freiberg says that he sees the killer targeting another pretty six-year-old pageant contestant. I hope I'm wrong, but I see this sicko killing again by mid-July. The top psychic, who has assisted with dozens of police investigations in the past, believes there is a sharp Sun reader out there who will lead homicide detectives to this murderer known to JonBenet as Jim"



I'm happy to find another psychic who had the same name as me.
WOW! Oh my god Vassent! I can't believe that psychic got Jim too!! you are on the right track! Do you get a description of this Jim??
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Originally posted by: Destiny


i dont have a deck its a vision or image i keep recieving everytime i hear or read her name its of a tarot card that has a bull fighter on it . sorry for not being clear on that


In that case I would have picked the Knight of SWORDS for your Bullfighter.
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WOW! Oh my god Vassent! I can't believe that psychic got Jim too!! you are on the right track! Do you get a description of this Jim??


I'm happy and not happy at the same time, because if no one has found this man when the article was published, there is few chance to find this man now..

For the description, no.. I have some faces visions, but i judge it not good perceptions.
Vassent look at the first post on that page!!!"
" A convict reportedly confessed to the Danielle van Dam and JonBenet Ramsey murders, 10News.com in San Diego reported today, April 25, 2005."

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=...
I forgot the gay perception.

Jim is a gay.
sorry forgot to mention his name is J. Selby! and kidnapped and murdered another girl.
Last update on July 19, 2012 5:09 pm by PAngel777.
It's not a Jim..

Like i said, i don't take attention to this kind of thing.

It's just a man who wants to go down in history of serial killers by naming Jonbenet.
If you look up more about Danielle Van Dam she was killed in 2002, after Jon Benet and she was also Blonde and taken from her bed at 10 o clock at night...But it says Selby committed suicide in jail in 2005
oh ok thought there were some similarities between him and what you and the other psychic said.
He don't have the same name. I'm sure about the name perception.

It's really possible to be sure about a perception.
I understand that this may seem hard to believe for some people, but it's possible to be sure.

Because i have made practices, again and again on this kind of site: www.remoteviewed.com/target/

After doing lots of RV sessions, with a lot of targets (i continue to do it all the day), you have many time a perfect vision of a target, sometime several times in a row.

And you finish by understand how looks like a good perception and how looks like a bad perception. Your internal process.

that's all.

I was already sure before finding this page: http://www.acandyrose.com/s-killer-jim-warren-frei...

But this page reconfirm to me.

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Yes i understand, just thought that it could be the guy because Jim is often sometimes used in short for James..but i guess not Unhappy
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Originally posted by: arlene

Yes i understand, just thought that it could be the guy because Jim is often sometimes used in short for James..but i guess not Unhappy



Oh ! ok ! I did not know ! (i'm french)

So yes, it could be him..
seriously, the man who made this site is really good !

http://www.acandyrose.com/s-james-selby.htm
oh yes very good site and interesting! and yes either jim or jimmy is a common nickname for james here in the U.S sorry i didn't mention that before.
[/b07." Authorities believe Selby was a drifter who came to San Diego in 2001".....Wow, drifter too.
In regards to the Danielle VanDam case and it's connection to JB's case I thought that I would put a link up for all to read. It is an informative over view of the case evidence and the court proceedings against D. Westerfield. I watched D. Westerfield's entire trail on television. I really do believe he murdered that little girl, I will leave you guys with the link and to form your own opinions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Westerfield
Last update on July 19, 2012 5:09 pm by PAngel777.
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new work.

not a good work, i have difficulties to have more information. The connection with Jonbenet wasn't good.

I have really the impression that she didn't know Jim family name.

She said: "Jim, owner of furniture".

Just after, i also had: "vatican mother".

So the two phrases could be linked.
I think about something.

Why LE doesn't have compared J. elby's DNA with the DNA evidence found ?
Last update on July 19, 2012 5:08 pm by PAngel777.
I made search to find a gay Jim, but without real result..

I have many results about gay men linked with the family, but i don't know their name.

http://www.google.fr/#sclient=psy&hl=fr&safe=off&s...

or

http://www.google.fr/#q=site:www.acandyrose.com+jo...
I often wonder that too Vassent...i guess they must not think he did it if they didn't test his dna...he's dead now anyway...and i was wondering if the gay you are getting is Mark Karr who was arrested in Bangkok a few years ago for confessing to Jonbenet's murder, but his DNA wasn't a match, he was just looking for attention i guess..but he was GAY...just a thought...and if indeed you are seeing a gay Jim, maybe it won't be on the internet that he was gay...he might even have a family and no one but himself knows he's gay...so that would be tough to find...just what i think.
Sry for retard ^^
I find a new job after a long time of inactivity (in physical life ^^), so i no longer have much time to do psychic work and pass on this site.

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Originally posted by: arlene

I often wonder that too Vassent...i guess they must not think he did it if they didn't test his dna...he's dead now anyway...

lol yes, it's crazy. Too late now ^^

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Originally posted by: arlene

and i was wondering if the gay you are getting is Mark Karr who was arrested in Bangkok a few years ago for confessing to Jonbenet's murder, but his DNA wasn't a match, he was just looking for attention i guess..but he was GAY...just a thought...

Yes, crazy also.. It's could be him, but it's not a Jim. Maybe just a coincidence, or a thing that i dont't understand for the moment.

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Originally posted by: arlene

and if indeed you are seeing a gay Jim, maybe it won't be on the internet that he was gay...he might even have a family and no one but himself knows he's gay...so that would be tough to find...just what i think.

Yes..

I will continu when i will be on holiday.

Kiss.
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